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Discussion on the upcoming Jentla Certification extension, developed by Andrew Eddie. The Jentla Certification extension helps identify and correct security and code quality issues in extensions installed on your Joomla site, as well as alerting you to Joomla security upgrades. An optional certification process for those extensions that pass the predefined tests will ultimately complement this extension, providing Joomla users with assurance that an extension meets documented quality and security criteria.

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Hi, Jentla is in use with some large organisations. Generally our customers don't want to be public but you can take a look at missionaustralia.com.au and we are working on a couple of largescale non-profit works that are going to be public. Our largest installation so far has over two million pages across over 190 sites. The certification extension will be freely available. It's better for users to have the extension on their own sites as they have such a large degree of control over settings that an on site review is needed to pick up poorly configured settings. Developers will be able to test their new extensions themselves before release. This all leads to a better quality of Joomla extensions and better site configuration. Andrew has built a framework so new tests can be added progressively. The certification extension code is on JoomlaCode now. At Jentla, we are working on an API to support a high degree of interoperability with third party systems and also working towards documenting how developers can convert their single site extensions to be multisite Jentla aware extensions. We'll keep you posted about that. Jentla does not hack Joomla at all. All our functionality is built on top of Joomla. We already have nested categories and role based front end admin so the impacts of 1.6 are not so profound for Jentla but we'll follow up the release of 1.6 with a compatible Jentla version using Joomla native nested categories. Hope this answers your questions! Cheers, Damian
Last replied by Damian Hickey on Thursday, 04 November 2010
Sandra Warren
This so rocks Andrew

Sandra
558 days ago
 
Matt Lipscomb
What an awesome way to move Joomla forward! #jfwd #joomlarocks

:-)

Thanks very much guys!
558 days ago
 
Dagoberto
Jentla is a CMS or Joomla! Extension?
I visited the site for information Jentla what it is.

I wondered if Jentla is a CMS based on Joomla or Jentla is a Joomla Extension

For documentation Jentla Installation Guide is included:

3. Licensing the Jentla Manager

In the Jentla Manager, add the license information via System > Compatibility, for exemple:

Site URL: (The domain you of test server as provided to your Jentla sales contact)

License Number: (As provided by your Jentla sales contact)

It is commercial or non-commercial? Also I found a page with information about this.

Anthony FisherAnthony Fisher on Wednesday, 03 November 2010 21:25

Hi Dagoberto and welcome to the group.

Jentla is a set of Joomla extensions for providing multisite management and enterprise content workflows to any number of Joomla sites in an organisation, all through a central management interface. The Jentla extensions are commercial, in that we sell the product and support services, mainly to enterprise clients who have a need to manage content across multiple sites in their company.

While Joomla has been seen as a great solution for individuals and SMEs, and distinct sites/intranets within larger businesses, we like to prove its suitability for larger enterprise needs and have recently had some great success in doing so.

With the Jentla Certification extension we are looking to provide a tool for the wider Joomla community to check the security of their site/s and its installed extensions. Extensions that pass the security and code quality tests will be able to be submitted to be "Jentla Certified" and carry that as a mark of their suitability for enterprise use. We will be adding further tests to the extension on an ongoing basis so we can provide grades or levels of certification as we develop a more comprehensive range of tests, with the aim of encouraging secure, best of breed extensions to be used for deployments by our enterprise customers.

We're lucky enough to have Andrew working with us in developing this extension.

I've posted a little more information on the motivation behind the extension on our blog. http://jentla.com/about-us/blogs.html

Thanks once again for taking an interest in the group!

DagobertoDagoberto on Thursday, 04 November 2010 08:23

Hi Anthony, thanks for the welcome...

I was confused, you state that:

"Jentla is a set of Joomla extensions for providing multisite management and enterprise content workflows to any number of Joomla sites in an organisation, all through a central management interface."

But on the information page about "Jentla N", is mentioned as Jentla CMS:

"The Jentla CMS is particularly suited to easily creating complex multipage and multi-status forms for the management of such processes as multipage application forms involving administrative workflows, event listings and even fully fledged CMDB systems."

And on page 'cms comparison' is cited:

"This is a product comparison of Jentla against Joomla, Drupal, Alfresco"

Notice how the mismatch of information leaves us confused?

Regards

Damian HickeyDamian Hickey on Thursday, 04 November 2010 23:08

Hi,

Most people aren't so interested in how something works when they are trying to solve a business problem. We don't hide that Jentla is based on Joomla. It's just that people wanting an enterprise class multisite solution are looking for that functionality so we lead with that rather than Joomla.

Cheers,

Damian

Gobezu SewuGobezu Sewu on Friday, 05 November 2010 01:12

Hi,

I definitely see what Dagoberto mean. I have been looking at your site from time to time whenever a pr is fired from you such as your ecommerce solution or the cert program and must admit have remained confused as what you actually are providing. No doubt a lot of good.

Anyway just came across http://www.jentla.com/products/cms-comparison.html and you have indeed a lot going on in that comparison table.

Most of the mentioned features are something Joomla! would probably never ever will have included since its only a CMS or rather hopefully becoming more of a framework for web application development, which also implies that it should remain lean, and the various efforts now rolling out in terms of distros ex. Molajo are probably a better stride towards enterprise or any other targeted solution and to me your solution seem to be a distro, so why not just call it a distro and "most people" will definitely understand where you are at instead of perceived as yet another CMS provider or even a Joomla! fork?

Whichever you choose I am sure you know your market best and I am just trying to understand to myself how you reason. And I wish you good luck with your business.

/Gobezu

Damian HickeyDamian Hickey on Saturday, 06 November 2010 01:05

Hi,

Jentla is decidedly not a distro. Watch our video to get a really quick grasp of that: http://people.joomla.org/videos/video/521-Joomla+and+Jentla.html?groupid=754

We are building the Jentla Certification programme so a distro is not needed to set up a site with trusted extensions. Distros are of limited use in that they can never accommodate the unique requirements of every use case. In almost all cases, you get a whole range of extensions that are never used, leading to bloat and confusion. Better to help improve the overall quality of Joomla extensions so people know that the extensions they choose are more likely to do the right job.

Cheers,

Damian

559 days ago